Spent a few hours with Vern (Project VND) trying to work out how, where and what size panniers to stick on the bike. There was a lot of hmmming and arhhhing. Much measuring, re-measuring, head scratching and discussion.

Finally a decision was made, he will need to make a cut out around the exhausts and there will be relatively flat tops with hooking points.

What I could not decide on was 9 inch or 10 inch wide, so both sizes will be cut with the intention now of fitting 9 inch ones to Jean's bike and then if I don't like 10 inch, trim them down for me. As this now means panniers for both bikes, another change to plan, we will not take top boxes due to the extra storage space we now have.